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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2015 0:00:12 GMT
fear is not an option luck is not a factor,
Three weeks. That was about how long one could survive without eating. And soon, they would reach that time and each of them would be dropping off like flies. Ryuu couldn't allow this happen. He needed more time. Therefore, the plan came to him, partially due to his cold and standoffish nature, partially due to the fact he didn't consider those around him as human, and partially because he was starting to be unable to think straight due to the hunger he faced. He didn't move around a lot, conserving his energy, but there was necessary observations he needed to make. It seemed like the bear was not kidding when it said that there would be absolutely no food until someone was killed. Ryuu did not know if the bear would live up to its word, but it was a good time to test out what would happen if someone was killed. That was what expendables were for, after all.
Ryuu watched around the crew of this ship, trying to find the one who he would attempt to convince to kill someone. There was the Analyzer, the 'Luckster', the Pickpocket, the Maid, the Doll. He was sure that he could use the Heir for something far more important later on, and so the boy remained off of his list. The Analyzer would not be easily persuaded, but would possibly figure out that he was the one behind trying to convince someone to kill someone else. No, the Analyzer would have to be the victim.
But who could be convinced to kill? The pickpocket, the maid, the luckster, the doll. The doll was detached, the doll might be able to be convinced, but she thought she was a doll, why would a doll kill for food? No. Not the doll. The pickpocket seemed more likely to kill if it were for something other than food in return. Perhaps convince him another of the expendables had something of great value, great enough value to kill for? Possibly. The Maid. She was too quiet. She wouldn't kill, Ryuu thought to himself, and there was no way she could kill the Analyzer. The Luckster. Probably the most useless of the bunch, the prime choice for killer. She seemed strong enough and if he convinced her that the Analyzer needed to die, perhaps she would actually kill the analyzer.
Ryuu had to decide. Luckster, Pickpocket. He would try to convince the Luckster first and then if she seemed unwilling, then the Pickpocket would be talked to next. Thus, Ryuu went to find N10.
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Post by Arare Ashibayai on Oct 7, 2015 1:15:25 GMT
Arare had taken to being in one of two places most of the time as the hunger continued. The Dining Hall, in case by some chance food did appear, or her room, where the chances of her being the victim of some hungry person's quest to kill to eat would be lessened. Still, it was good to get out and get some fresh air every so often. As luck would have it, Ryuu would find her on the deck, looking out over the seemingly endless ocean.
Perhaps she would get lucky and one of the apparently non-existent fish would make it's appearance?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2015 18:29:04 GMT
fear is not an option luck is not a factor,
Ryuu slowly made his way to the deck, trying to conserve his energy and not use it stupidly. He made calculated movements, the most efficient way to conserve his energy, a fluid, yet mechanical made his way up to the deck, which was probably the best place to find people. Some would try to catch fish, but Ryuu knew that was a waste of time. He didn’t bother with the fact that the expendable would be doing that, and yet, it was actually good that she was at least looking, seeing as Ryuu wanted to find her, and that was the first place he thought of when he thought of where to find her.
N10. He slowly approached the expendable, careful not to scare her, in case she did not notice his advance. “Hello.” He decided not to call her by the name she had given when they all were introduced to each other, seeing as names meant they were human, and what he was just about to do he could never to do another human being. Essentially, he was going to try to manipulate her into killing another one of the expendables.
He would be condoning murder, but it wasn’t really murder if they weren’t really people, was it? It was just a strategy and they were pawns at his disposal. One had the possibility of turning into a knight or a bishop, if they managed to survive his tests, which no one really had, him throwing deadly situations at the pawns that only the most skilled could pass. Perhaps if there was an ‘ultimate’ skill student. Or ‘ultimate’ survivor. Otherwise, every one of these expendables were doomed in Ryuu’s eyes. No need to dwell upon them, but there was need to make sure they were put to good use, otherwise it would be a waste of supplies. “Do you see anything?” Small talk first, then manipulation. She needn’t be immediately suspicious that he had ulterior motives.
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Post by Arare Ashibayai on Oct 8, 2015 1:21:31 GMT
Arare turned to Ryuu as he said Hello. She thought that it was a bit strange for him to approach. From what she had gathered Ryuu tended to stick to himself, but whatever the reason for this chance encounter it would hopefully work out good in the end. "Nothing besides ocean," She said, turning away from it to lean against the rail. "I would think that means that mechanical bear has some way of keeping them from approaching the ship at all. If there was even just one fish in there I would have seen it. Luck can only make the improbable possible, but if there's no chance of something happening then that's just impossible."
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2015 2:24:17 GMT
fear is not an option luck is not a factor,
Ryuu laughed softly when she mentioned luck. He couldn’t just let it slide. Normally he could just be calm and collected, but it was probably the lack of food getting to him. “I’m sorry, but luck doesn’t exist. It is simply an imaginary construct to explain the occurrence of improbably things from happening.” However, he was trying to manipulate the girl, so he figured that insulting her ‘talent’ was something that would not help her trust him, nor convince her to kill N3.
Ryuu sighed, though he was too prideful to apologize for the insult to the ‘talent’. Ryuu pressed his lips together in an uncalculated movement that used energy that he needed to be conserved. Now he just had to factor in that little bit of waste of energy with such an uncalculated movement. He released the pressure between his lips in an instant to stop the wasting of energy.
Thinking about the energy conservation was the only way to ignore the fact there was a living, breathing human being in front of him who he was going to sacrifice for food by convincing her to kill another living, breathing human being. But it had to be done. He had to be distant. He had to make this person in front of him not seem like a person. He had to think of her as a tool. That was the only way he could get anyone out of this situation. The expendables were important, almost more important than everyone else, because they were tool. They were the ones who were going to ensure their escape.
“Regardless,” Ryuu continued, “I hope that the bear will give us food when he sees that we’re unwilling to kill each other for it. If not soon, we’ll all die.”
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Post by Arare Ashibayai on Oct 8, 2015 2:35:35 GMT
Arare stared at him a bit when he went off about how luck wasn't real. She had heard it all before, but it was still the best explaination for the events of her life. Ryuu had gone on to talk about talk about food and such, but if it wasn't about being able to get it, sans-murder, then she'd rather not make herself hungrier by talking about it. She decided to say what she could on the topic and then move on to the more important discussion. "Either one of us will kill another, or we'll start to die from lack of food. I'm certain that we'll get food when either event happens. The bear has a plan around us killing each other, so if we start dying in the way he doesn't want then he'll probably switch tactics rather than just let us die."
"But I'd rather talk about the other thing you said. Of course Luck exists. If there was ever proof of it, that's would be me."
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2015 3:05:55 GMT
fear is not an option luck is not a factor,
Ryuu really was not trying to start an argument. He wanted to make her like him, but there was such a thing as pride, and Ryuu had a lot of it. Luck was one of those things he didn’t believe in. Otherwise, they could’ve survived. She had a one in million shot of living, and yet she still died. She died, and he could do nothing about it. The strategy was rigged so if she died, it would still be fine. But she had the chance to survive, but she didn’t. If there was luck, then she would’ve lived. But she didn’t. She was dead because luck was not real. It was the only time in his whole life he wanted the chances to be weighed in his favor. The one time that he tried to believe in luck it failed him. There was nothing that would get him to believe in it ever again. It cost him someone he cared about. And he wouldn’t make that mistake again. N10 would die just like she did, her ‘power of luck’ failing her in the end.
“Unless he doesn’t care if we die,” Ryuu noted referring to her interpretation of the bear, “The bear has an agenda, I know, but if he can’t force us to do what he wants, we all might as well be dead to him, is that not true?” Ryuu continued to try to press this line, wanting to not have wasted this time and energy only to argue about luck, because he had a purpose, and it was no use to him arguing about the imaginary construct.
However, the luckster was insistent on talking about luck. It wasn’t something he cared to elaborate on because it was something he did not believe in so completely. “Proof? There can be no proof of something that does not exist. You are simply the result of a drawing where one person must be picked. You see a pattern in good things that happen to you, and yet you ignore all of the ‘chances’ that you miss. If you were so ‘lucky’ why are you on this ship with this terrible killing game taking place? How can that be good luck?”
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Post by Arare Ashibayai on Oct 8, 2015 3:23:40 GMT
Arare stared at Ryuu for a moment in silence as he explained how she was reading in to normal Lottery way of deciding on the Super High School Level Good Luck didn't mean luck was real, but it was just random chance.
Then she started to laugh.
"I... I was wondering when someone whould mention the Lottery..." She said, reigning in her laughter to conserve entery. "Well, that is how normally decided, isn't it, so I knew it was going to happen eventually. Yes, that is the typical system for why there are Lucky Students at Hope's Peak, my case is a bit... different. I have been lucky my whole life, a fact that I discovered early. Chance always seems to side in my favor and Hope's Peak let me in not from the simple lottery, but some test they cooked up and never told me about. Perhaps running several hundreds or thousands of the lottery with me in it to see the chance of my name getting pulled. I mean if I had a deck of cards or something perhaps I could give a demonstration..."
Arare paused for a moment. "As for why I'm here? This does seem like a bad situation, but I'm certain that things will end up fine... for me at least. 'A pinch can turn into a chance,' or so I've heard."
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2015 5:31:53 GMT
fear is not an option luck is not a factor,
Not the lottery? Odd, that was how it was almost always done. It didn’t matter, nonetheless, seeing as luck was still imaginary. It didn’t matter what test she went through. It just meant that the improbably happened. It was a science, knowing what would happen, and the odds, well odds weren’t real. The only way to live was by strategy. By logic. How one could rely on such a flimsy imaginary thing like luck, Ryuu didn’t understand. It could fail her any moment because there was no basis in logic. There was absolutely no base for leaving things to luck. Failure was the only result that would come from that.
“And how do you know someone won’t kill you. Everyone on this ship, they’re hungry. Someone might kill you to eat. Out of everyone here, you’re the weakest, the only one with no real talent. You might think ‘luck’ can get you places, but all it gets you is death. Maybe you’ll be the ‘lucky’ first death.”
hope is not a strategy ?Sorry, it's a tad shorter than usual.
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Post by Monokuma on Oct 9, 2015 19:03:00 GMT
Monokuma was watching the ship, starting to get bored since no one had yet died. However, one conversation seemed to peak his interests. The Strategist kid, he seemed to be talking with the Luckster, and it seemed to be a wonderful debate. He seemed to have started out with some sort of manipulation tactic to get her to kill someone else (who it was, Monokuma would have no idea), but then he seemed to get frustrated about her talking about luck. Oh, Monokuma was laughing loudly, but luckily the Captain Chambers were soundproof so no one could hear him. Well, now was the time to screw with the strategist. Monokuma wanted to knock the kid down a few rungs, possibly because of his comment after he had announced the game of getting people out of there. No, this kid would not get anyone off of this ship. He needed absolute despair. And he still had hope. So, a bit of crushing the kid wouldn’t hurt. “Does anyone need some cards?” Monokuma appeared right next to the pair with a deck of cards in his hand. Well, hopefully they weren’t hungry enough to eat the cards.
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Post by Arare Ashibayai on Oct 9, 2015 20:01:49 GMT
Before Arare cound reply to Ryuu, luckily that Monochromatic bear showed up with just what she needed to proove her point: Some playing cards. "Well this is certainly fortunate timing," Arare said, not going to look this gift horse in the mouth. "I'm certain that is a normal deck of playing cards. I've gone through tests like this before so I know to keep my hands off of them unless necessary. Investigate the deck as much as you want and then deal me a hand of 5 cards."
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2015 22:29:38 GMT
fear is not an option luck is not a factor,
The bear arrived, and Ryuu closed his eyes in annoyance of the bear. The bear who wanted to be called captain, the bear that was forcing this impossible situation upon them. The bear did not earn the title of captain. There were so many out there, so many people who died for their title, there were those who went through hell in order to earn that title. There was no way that he would call the bear that. While Ryuu was a strategist and would do what was necessary to live, there was his pride that was probably the only thing that would get in the way. It was just one of those things that most people wouldn’t care about, but he felt like he was disrespecting those who worked for their position of captain.
He took a breath when the bear offered the cards. “This will not prove anything.” Ryuu took the cards. “Fortunate timing? I’m sure… he was watching the whole time.” There was absolutely nothing ‘lucky’ about it. Nothing, ‘fortunate’. Ryuu quickly scanned through to make sure all of the cards were there, and then shuffling it quickly. He handed her five cards, as she requested. He didn’t understand what she was going for. Even if she had the best hand in the world with those five cards, it still didn’t prove anything.
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Post by Arare Ashibayai on Oct 10, 2015 7:00:50 GMT
"He may have been watching the whole time," Arare said as she grabbed the cards that he handed her. "What are the odds of him having a readily availible deck of cards so that I can use them for example."
She took a look at the cards and nodded, revealing them to him, and if the Robot Bear was paying attention, Monokuma. It was the 10, Jack, Queen, King and Ace of Diamonds. "A Royal Straight Flush," She said, handing the cards back to him. "So rare that a Professional Poker Player might only see it once or twice a year out of hundreds of thousands of hand, if they are lucky, and they might not even be the one with it. I've lost count of how many times I've gotten one due to tests just like this, but let me stop you. I've heard it all before. 'That was just a coincidence. It's entirely possible to draw one by simple chance and not some kind of Greater Luck.'"
"So shuffle the cards and deal me another hand, please." The Lucky Girl looked at him seriously. Luck was, after all, partially about a state of mind. For this to work she actually had to want to draw what she needed from the deck or else there will be no meaning to the randomness siding in her favor. It was something akin to... believing in the Heart of the Cards.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2015 17:19:05 GMT
fear is not an option luck is not a factor,
Ryuu scoffed as she drew the royal flush. He was just about to speak when she said that she had heard it all before. And yet, he had heard all of this before too. Sure the chances for her were even lower than drawing a royal flush… No, he needed to stop that line of thinking. Even still, his expression had changed for that split second to one of intense guilt, before he quickly shifted it back to the plain straight face he always had. The façade he wore to hide the internal struggle he had always gone through, especially when dealing with expendables.
“There is a 769 millionth of a percent chance you can draw a royal flush. It does not matter how many times you draw it, the probability is still there.” Ryuu shuffled again, and handed her the five cards from the top of the deck again. “But tell me, when your ‘luck’ fails you, what would you do?” He made sure to stress the word luck, because he still didn’t believe that it was a real thing that could ever fail someone. “You die. Someone you care about dies, and all because you let it happen because you thought the ‘odds’ were in your favor?”
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Post by Arare Ashibayai on Oct 11, 2015 21:36:25 GMT
Arare took the cards and looked at them before revealing them to Ryuu. It was another Royal Flush, this time with Clubs instead of Diamonds. She handed him the cards back and prepared herself for another hand, although he might give up since he didn't consider this an acceptable test.
"If my luck fails me and I die, then I guess I will be dead, or it means that I had no chance of not dying. I'm already lucky to be alive. I was born with almost no chance of surviving, so me dying, while not something I want to happen, is something I know I've already nearly avoided once in my life. So, tell me: What would it take to convice you that my luck is real?"
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